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Square Soft riddles!

@musenji  - March 15, 2011, 4:06 a.m.

Riddles are really friggin fun. Verily!

The rules:

  1. One riddle at a time. Whoever correctly guesses the riddle (and has the answer confirmed by the riddler) gets to post the next one. They have 48 hours to do so, then the floor is open. (They can also decline to post, and leave the floor open, but c'mon guys, give it a shot.)

  2. The riddler gets to decide whether to give hints, and whether to answer questions. (i.e. It's not 20 questions folks.)

Something that has worked very well is for guessers to post the reasoning behind their guesses--which gives the riddler a chance to steer them along, in an organic fashion. And it keeps people from just randomly guessing.

  1. Riddles are to be made based on Square Soft games (pre-2003) that were released in America. (The reason for this is to limit the field and keep it relatively accessible to all.)

  2. If you are posting a riddle, pick one game to riddle about, and state it in your initial post.


So, the first riddle. It's from Final Fantasy VII:

I reside in darkness where evil’s enlightened Mostly contorted, but sometimes I’m heightened

If you look around, you can tell I’ve been preying Though when I appear, the guitarist keeps playing

@musenji - April 1, 2011, 8:47 a.m.

Well, I suppose I could hotwire this thing...

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@jit - April 1, 2011, 11:33 a.m.

If u mean hotwiring the answer, i can safely say no, but if ur referring to hotwiring the riddle, then explain the thought process, and i shall guide u to the promised land, well not that, but ill lead u to the answer

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@Geist - April 1, 2011, 12:35 p.m.

is the group that it comes in six? cause' i know there are those little mushroom guys that shoot seeds and they come in groups of six, i think...

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@musenji - April 1, 2011, 12:56 p.m.

jit I sent you my thought process via PM earlier, but geist kinda anti-climactic'd the whole deal. :D I got the same answer (Battery Caps), but it was through an epic quest of riddle searchlery that took me almost an hour. Ranulf, you would be proud. *tear*

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@jit - April 1, 2011, 5:05 p.m.

mus, that was a crazy analysis you did. But unfortunately you are wrong, so that means Geist is wrong as well. So I'm going to drop a hint for each part. The first part is very straight forward. Note, the rest of this riddle is meant to mislead you in everyway possible. aka I was tired of getting my riddles cracked in 2 tries lol

if you want to find me then use the next statement as a map but dont believe it all because its mostly full of crap -------------north of condor------------------------ ------------enter bone village--------------------- ---------down a mountain of havoc-------------- ------------look at your menu---------------------- -----------only inaccurate data------------------- ----go outside and backtrack to find us------ when you figure that out then identify me i come in a group one specific multiple of 3 i have a nice view and noone bothers me but the truth is I'm a slave shackled near a tree
Hint 1: The map part of the riddle is exactly how it was stated on the first part. A portion of it is a lie. But collectively it's the truth. Which one is bogus and not is for you to figure out. This riddle can be solved without this part at all, but solving it with just the last part is like searching blind as a bat so you might want to figure this part out. Sure, this riddle won't tell you give you the exact name of the location, but it will pointpoint you to your destination. Hint 2: As stated a nice view doesn't have to mean beauty. Hint 3: Geist it isn't a multiple of 6. Hint 4: In mus response
The only problem is that I don't know what "a slave, shackled" refers to.
Don't take it literally, take it as an analogy. I'll make the hints more obvious if it still isn't getting solved.

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@Geist - April 1, 2011, 5:28 p.m.

i don't think i'll be able to figure it out. also, six is a multiple of three...unless you are talking factors, cause then i think it is probably just a group of three.

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@auriplane - April 1, 2011, 5:45 p.m.

Formula? Appears in groups of three, which is a multiple of three; shackled (only appears in one place?); has a nice view (flies up high); I think it's in the right vicinity

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@musenji - April 1, 2011, 7:25 p.m.

Okay then I'll post my guess with the reasoning in format, just so others can see it. I just gave the story because I thought I was right and that you would appreciate seeing that it wasn't just a shot in the dark. Well, plus I like epic drama. The first stanza basically says that the following stanza contains directions to the general location of the answer. however, more than half of these statements are false, so it's probably just one, or two put together, that give the proper location. For the second stanza, if you leave through the side exit of nibel mountain (where monster-creating havoc happened), and "backtrack" you'll end up on a peninsula with forests. Third stanza could mean an enemy that comes in groups of 3 or 6. (No enemies come in groups of 9.) It could also be something else entirely, that comes in a multiple of three. Battery Caps, which are in said forests, can come in groups of six. No one bothers battery caps in those forests because it's out of the main plot path and there are no sidequests there. I was taking batteries being slaves as an analogy--or at least figuratively. Batteries aren't living things, so obviously they can't actually be slaves. :-) **************************** Other thoughts since the hints: It says "a tree", not "trees". so...maybe it's not enemies in a forest at all. I'm thinking maybe shinra soldiers. The Junon marching band comes to mind but there are no trees around there. But maybe there are other parts where soldiers march out in threes. And they're not slaves, but they ARE subordinate. Yes, I'm ignoring other parts of the riddle while brainstorming about a specific part. :-) I tend to think that what we have to do, here, is take the second part of the riddle to get our leads for the answer, and THEN filter them through the second stanza to see if they fit any of the combinations. Because otherwise there's really no way to know which combination in the second stanza will be the right combination.

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@musenji - April 1, 2011, 7:28 p.m.

Being shackled near a tree kinda makes me think of hippies who don't want a tree cut down, so they shackle themselves up to it. Though that would be a very literal meaning of shackled. :D

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@GrimacingGrimoire - April 1, 2011, 7:54 p.m.

there is that giant tree you use as the entrance to get to the forgotten capital...that is the only prominent tree that i can think of. maybe in that small patch of land between the sleeping forest and the forgotten capital there is an enemy that appears in groups. no guess for me, just trying to stimulate someone else's memory.

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@musenji - April 1, 2011, 8:13 p.m.

Geist said

i don't think i'll be able to figure it out. also, six is a multiple of three...unless you are talking factors, cause then i think it is probably just a group of three.
Well the minimal info we can definitely take from this is that if it is a fixed number, then of all the multiples of three (3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, ...) we can eliminate those that are also multiples of six, leaving only odd-numbered multiples of three (3, 9, 15, etc...)

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@jit - April 1, 2011, 8:25 p.m.

Hint 1: The map part of the riddle is exactly how it was stated on the first part. A portion of it is a lie. But collectively it's the truth. Which one is bogus and not is for you to figure out. This riddle can be solved without this part at all, but solving it with just the last part is like searching blind as a bat so you might want to figure this part out. Sure, this riddle won't tell you give you the exact name of the location, but it will pointpoint you to your destination. Hint 2: As stated a nice view doesn't have to mean beauty. Hint 3: Geist it isn't a multiple of 6. Hint 4: In mus response

The only problem is that I don't know what "a slave, shackled" refers to.
Don't take it literally, take it as an analogy. Hint 5: Geist said
i don't think i'll be able to figure it out. also, six is a multiple of three...unless you are talking factors, cause then i think it is probably just a group of three.
Ahh yes, don't you love misleading information. And I am talking about multiples, not factors. But the beauty is I could reword it to factors and it still works. But there's a reason the line is worded as it is, even if you get the number(which should be known now...what is the only number that is both a factor and multiple of the number I asked)

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@jit - April 1, 2011, 8:47 p.m.

Formula? Appears in groups of three, which is a multiple of three; shackled (only appears in one place?); has a nice view (flies up high); I think it's in the right vicinity
Nice auriplane! Hint 6: Not exactly what I was going for with shackled, but it does work out to be in one place if you understand the other lines, especially the multiple 3 line. Hint 7: Not exactly flies up high, but a much better answer than beautiful forest or whatever was said.

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@Ranulf - April 1, 2011, 10:18 p.m.

jit said

mus, that was a crazy analysis you did. But unfortunately you are wrong
*tear*

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@jit - April 1, 2011, 11:55 p.m.

don't tear :(, it's more fun when you work collectively to figure it out and the satisfaction that comes with it for whoever solves it. It's much better than getting it solved really quickly. The more you give guesses with some rational explanation, the more I will exploit the riddle! But it's Friday night so off I go to the city lights.

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